but if jay carney is going out there and he's saying things that look like bald faced lies, these reporters just throw up their arms and say what were we doing? so i think the trust and honesty has been broken. >> the a ip this week said we can't even get honest pictures of this president. i think that plays in, howie, to something that is going on with the press in this town. we are managed to such an extent by the white house and everybody else. but this administration has taken it to another level in terms of media management and access to this president just about nonexistent. so i read this week they have some columnists in here and there, typically people favorable, very limited, very small. but is the president reaching out to the larger media? no. >> well, then you have front page analysis in the "new york times" where the buck stops, some see a bystander and even dana millback wants obama to know when did he know it? answer, not much and about a minute ago. and it's hard, just to briefly touch on this, the nsa spying, i thought maybe the president was engaging in plausible deniabil